Talk:Ellen Leigh/@comment-1460848-20200916095606

Ellen seemed to have no trouble placing Paimon inside Charlie when she's a newborn. So why did she fail with HER own son? Did she have lousy demonic techniques back some 40 years ago, leading to her son's resistance to Paimon? Or was he in a way a very tough son of a bitch that he managed to hold against Ellen and Paimon for 16 years all through schizophrenia and shit? She had the perfect opportunity for everything. How did she screw that up?